VAG continues to struggle with EVs. Now forced to close a plant.
lostinheadguy
Whoa whoa whoa. Context is required here.
Firstly, this plant isn’t exactly “state-of-the-art”. It’s been building Volkswagens since the 1950s, and Volkswagen Group has owned it since the 70s. It’s also not a full factory in the traditional sense in that it doesn’t even have a paint shop.
The plant has also been subject to a myriad of models which used to be popular but suddenly fell off or got shifted to other plants for a new generation. It’s been somewhat of a “problem child” for VAG for a while now.
Spartanfred104
People don’t want to spend $100,000 dollar on a vehicle, that’s why these plants are closing, they made a bunch of luxery vehicles when they actually needed to make Toyota Tercels to sell to the masses. This is the companies fault not the EVs.
allgonetoshit
The Q8 sales are absolutely getting cannibalized by the Q6 and Maccan. The Q8 is literally 2 generations behind. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great car. My dad has one and loves it. For a lot of people, the Q8 is more than they would ever need, but……… It’s sooooooo far behind the Q6 in tech.
All these daily articles about the EV market or an auto maker’s sales COLLAPSING are so idiotic and clickbaity. This happens all the time in the ICE world. Some factory that bet big on one model that nobody wants anymore.
The Auto industry, not just the EV industry, has and has always had a huge problem: they make stuff people want, but they also make tons of stuff people don’t want.
Right now, people want either cheaper EVs or EVs that are the latest and greatest in term of range, performance, and charging performance. The Q8, as amazing as it is a no holds bar luxury SUV, it is neither cheap or the latest and greatest.
t0mt0mt0m
continental, yes the fn tire company was given the lead contract for electrical software and hardware to vws electrical systems years ago. I called it 10 years ago and we see it now.
Crenorz
lol “state-of-the-art”. Tesla is doing things in DAYS vs years (go check the Nvidia CEO quote of 4 years vs 19 days). Then put in – and they do the same for car updates/changes/fixes and the issue is not just we do this, or we can do that. The issue is how quickly Tesla is moving and the fact that they are 10 years ahead – and that lead is GROWING not shrinking.
Fast management + top talent on the planet = no chance of catching them.
It started with their shit software and UI. And it all went down hill from there.
SniffUmaMuffins
This is the factory making the Audi Q8 E-Tron.
“For one, we can’t overlook the dismal sales numbers for the Q8 E-Tron, with the 120,000-vehicle-capacity plant reaching its peak in 2022 with 47,900 cars, compared to 37,400 Q8 E-Trons last year. This year, Audi has delivered 23,900 vehicles.“
Groundbreaking_War52
I think they have bigger problems than their luxury tier EVs.
The inability to fix the ID.4’s software issues, the cancellation of the ID.7 for the US market, and the underwhelming stats of the Buzz all suggest that VW isn’t really serious about being a major player in the BEV world.
vasilenko93
Another day another example of Tesla’s competition failing to compete with Tesla
acecombine
state-of-the-art managers can f_ck up any company… astonishing…
13 Comments
VAG continues to struggle with EVs. Now forced to close a plant.
Whoa whoa whoa. Context is required here.
Firstly, this plant isn’t exactly “state-of-the-art”. It’s been building Volkswagens since the 1950s, and Volkswagen Group has owned it since the 70s. It’s also not a full factory in the traditional sense in that it doesn’t even have a paint shop.
The plant has also been subject to a myriad of models which used to be popular but suddenly fell off or got shifted to other plants for a new generation. It’s been somewhat of a “problem child” for VAG for a while now.
People don’t want to spend $100,000 dollar on a vehicle, that’s why these plants are closing, they made a bunch of luxery vehicles when they actually needed to make Toyota Tercels to sell to the masses. This is the companies fault not the EVs.
The Q8 sales are absolutely getting cannibalized by the Q6 and Maccan. The Q8 is literally 2 generations behind. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great car. My dad has one and loves it. For a lot of people, the Q8 is more than they would ever need, but……… It’s sooooooo far behind the Q6 in tech.
All these daily articles about the EV market or an auto maker’s sales COLLAPSING are so idiotic and clickbaity. This happens all the time in the ICE world. Some factory that bet big on one model that nobody wants anymore.
The Auto industry, not just the EV industry, has and has always had a huge problem: they make stuff people want, but they also make tons of stuff people don’t want.
Right now, people want either cheaper EVs or EVs that are the latest and greatest in term of range, performance, and charging performance. The Q8, as amazing as it is a no holds bar luxury SUV, it is neither cheap or the latest and greatest.
continental, yes the fn tire company was given the lead contract for electrical software and hardware to vws electrical systems years ago. I called it 10 years ago and we see it now.
lol “state-of-the-art”. Tesla is doing things in DAYS vs years (go check the Nvidia CEO quote of 4 years vs 19 days). Then put in – and they do the same for car updates/changes/fixes and the issue is not just we do this, or we can do that. The issue is how quickly Tesla is moving and the fact that they are 10 years ahead – and that lead is GROWING not shrinking.
Fast management + top talent on the planet = no chance of catching them.
[https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/elon-musk-took-19-days-to-set-up-100-000-nvidia-h200-gpus-process-normally-takes-4-years](https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/elon-musk-took-19-days-to-set-up-100-000-nvidia-h200-gpus-process-normally-takes-4-years)
It started with their shit software and UI. And it all went down hill from there.
This is the factory making the Audi Q8 E-Tron.
“For one, we can’t overlook the dismal sales numbers for the Q8 E-Tron, with the 120,000-vehicle-capacity plant reaching its peak in 2022 with 47,900 cars, compared to 37,400 Q8 E-Trons last year. This year, Audi has delivered 23,900 vehicles.“
I think they have bigger problems than their luxury tier EVs.
The inability to fix the ID.4’s software issues, the cancellation of the ID.7 for the US market, and the underwhelming stats of the Buzz all suggest that VW isn’t really serious about being a major player in the BEV world.
Another day another example of Tesla’s competition failing to compete with Tesla
state-of-the-art managers can f_ck up any company… astonishing…
…because it’s not state of the art anymore.
Give it to Rivian, save the jobs