the 3.3 and 3.8 they came with are absolutely bulletproof. the A604 transmission CAN be good if serviced properly. no one does. they make it about 150k and then they need to be replaced when none of the proper service is done. it only takes ATF+4, people put random generic fluids in it and it dies. it has to have the fluid changed every so often, no one does. these vans will rust away long before the engines in them die.
JimBeam823
They sold a LOT of them and minivans aren’t cheap to replace. That’s why.
You see an insane amount of 2nd Generation Siennas (2004-10) still on the road for how many they sold.
royce085
It’s probably because an insane amount of them have been produced due to popularity from the 90s on. You’re bound to still see some old ones when so many were made
TrailBikeJoe
We had a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager. It’s was a good car. We turned the 3 row seat backwards so our grandpa could watch soccer games with the hatch open. Take both seats out and you could make lumber runs at the local Depot. It was passed down to my brother who missed in oil change and it was history. It made it 300k was loved for every one of the miles (until the end of course).
Tacoless_meat
I loved mine. There is no more practical vehicle than a mini-van and most were very reliable and durable. Always made more sense for a family than a three row suv when traveling with kids.
CabanaFred
They rust really bad but they are relatively reliable, super useful & there really isn’t anything like it anymore. Newer minivans are mainly offered in luxury trims
REDDITSHITLORD
You bet your ass they’re good! I bought one with 160k miles on it last year, and it’s the best fucking thing ever!
* Flip & Fuck seating * Can fit a 4×8 sheet of plywood * You can play smash on the drop down screens because it has AV-IN * 3500lb tow capacity * under-floor storage for camping gear or piss jugs * God entered my body as a body my same size * the center console is removable so you can put a cooler between the seats * Cheep amazon roof bars fit it, and it will hold a roof top tent * Probably one of the better looking minivans ever made.
RoseWould
They disappeared for awhile, like just *poof* gone. But I noticed a lot of people that are opening like small business shops are picking them up for cheap, cleaning them up, taking the back rows of seats out and using them as work vans. since they built millions of these things parts would be easier to find if they break.
my_key
Because people have families and stuff. These vehicles are practical and can carry a lot of it.
Also, imagine how many girls you can pick up…
E90BarberaRed6spdN52
They are okay but were the equivalent to station wagons of lore that many many soccer moms used to haul kids around in so they were typically fixed or maintained decently so mom won’t break down roadside. Chrysler sold so many of them in the US that it saved the company from going under thanks to Lee Ioccoca.
andos4
I noticed that this particular model/generation is mostly gone, but the Sienna and Odyssey from this time period are still going strong!
fruttypebbles
We had one in the 90s. Had a large family and this was perfect for us. It was cheap, got good gas mileage and wasn’t a fortune to maintain. It’s not flashy or fancy. But when you spend most of your money clothing and feeding an army of kids it’s perfect.
Longjumping-Log1591
Them that good 😝🤡🤡🤡🤡
RayOhm
Lots of people want minivans and they are cheaper than the Japanese and Korean competitors
StandupJetskier
Low stressed, few actual flaws. My FIL has one. Turn signal switch goes, but the rest is an anvil.
Fecal_Forger
Honestly tons of room for bang bus type stuff.
anarcho-satanism
They’re even more common in the junkyard
Ericeng3000
minivans skew to lower income families compared to SUVs. poor people keep their cars longer.
Silver-Day-7272
Those dodge minivans have a fuel line that is known to get brittle and when it does and cracks it sprays fuel and will catch on fire.
The rear end also gets wiggly in rain.
They do take a ton of abuse though.
cynicalkindness
Rear subframe rusts out, but that is replaceable.
ErikTheRed2000
As for the reliability, let me put it this way. When my grandmother couldn’t drive anymore she refused to sell hers, so it sat out in the driveway (dirt driveway in the woods). There it sat for 5 years with tree sap slowly burying it and the mold coating the interior. Eventually we convinced her to sell it to a family friend. When he came to collect he brought a replacement battery and installed it. He then started it with no issue and drove it to a detailer to clean it. All that was wrong with it was one of the power doors wasn’t working right (which had already been an issue before it was parked), everything else was just normal maintenance (fluid changes, brakes, etc).
DaddyHawk45
Car based vs truck based platforms. Roomy enough to take pretty much everything you’d want. Typically bulletproof engines (unless you are my father in law that can and has killed everything on 4 wheels through neglect). Decent gas mileage for their size. Not winning any style points or races, but that’s not their point.
Comfortable_Gain1308
Honda odessey
Zvenigora
Minivans were actually more practical than the SUVs and pickups they are now trying to sell everyone as replacements; they got as good or better fuel efficiency and were easier to drive and park. Those who have them may not be so inclined to “upgrade.”
Off-Da-Ricta
We had one on the farm. You can fit everything from alpacas to flat screens. We used the hell out of it then gave it to my girl. She used it for a few years and then gave it to her parents. They still drive it all over.
They’re good enough.
Rex_Punani
I used to do emissions testing in Ct. I saw more Honda Odyssey and Toyota Siennas with over 300k miles than any other vehicles
Whole-Essay640
Minivans are most comfortable for hauling people, especially adults.
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the 3.3 and 3.8 they came with are absolutely bulletproof. the A604 transmission CAN be good if serviced properly. no one does. they make it about 150k and then they need to be replaced when none of the proper service is done. it only takes ATF+4, people put random generic fluids in it and it dies. it has to have the fluid changed every so often, no one does. these vans will rust away long before the engines in them die.
They sold a LOT of them and minivans aren’t cheap to replace. That’s why.
You see an insane amount of 2nd Generation Siennas (2004-10) still on the road for how many they sold.
It’s probably because an insane amount of them have been produced due to popularity from the 90s on. You’re bound to still see some old ones when so many were made
We had a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager. It’s was a good car. We turned the 3 row seat backwards so our grandpa could watch soccer games with the hatch open. Take both seats out and you could make lumber runs at the local Depot. It was passed down to my brother who missed in oil change and it was history. It made it 300k was loved for every one of the miles (until the end of course).
I loved mine. There is no more practical vehicle than a mini-van and most were very reliable and durable. Always made more sense for a family than a three row suv when traveling with kids.
They rust really bad but they are relatively reliable, super useful & there really isn’t anything like it anymore. Newer minivans are mainly offered in luxury trims
You bet your ass they’re good! I bought one with 160k miles on it last year, and it’s the best fucking thing ever!
* Flip & Fuck seating
* Can fit a 4×8 sheet of plywood
* You can play smash on the drop down screens because it has AV-IN
* 3500lb tow capacity
* under-floor storage for camping gear or piss jugs
* God entered my body as a body my same size
* the center console is removable so you can put a cooler between the seats
* Cheep amazon roof bars fit it, and it will hold a roof top tent
* Probably one of the better looking minivans ever made.
They disappeared for awhile, like just *poof* gone. But I noticed a lot of people that are opening like small business shops are picking them up for cheap, cleaning them up, taking the back rows of seats out and using them as work vans. since they built millions of these things parts would be easier to find if they break.
Because people have families and stuff. These vehicles are practical and can carry a lot of it.
Also, imagine how many girls you can pick up…
They are okay but were the equivalent to station wagons of lore that many many soccer moms used to haul kids around in so they were typically fixed or maintained decently so mom won’t break down roadside. Chrysler sold so many of them in the US that it saved the company from going under thanks to Lee Ioccoca.
I noticed that this particular model/generation is mostly gone, but the Sienna and Odyssey from this time period are still going strong!
We had one in the 90s. Had a large family and this was perfect for us. It was cheap, got good gas mileage and wasn’t a fortune to maintain.
It’s not flashy or fancy. But when you spend most of your money clothing and feeding an army of kids it’s perfect.
Them that good 😝🤡🤡🤡🤡
Lots of people want minivans and they are cheaper than the Japanese and Korean competitors
Low stressed, few actual flaws. My FIL has one. Turn signal switch goes, but the rest is an anvil.
Honestly tons of room for bang bus type stuff.
They’re even more common in the junkyard
minivans skew to lower income families compared to SUVs. poor people keep their cars longer.
Those dodge minivans have a fuel line that is known to get brittle and when it does and cracks it sprays fuel and will catch on fire.
The rear end also gets wiggly in rain.
They do take a ton of abuse though.
Rear subframe rusts out, but that is replaceable.
As for the reliability, let me put it this way. When my grandmother couldn’t drive anymore she refused to sell hers, so it sat out in the driveway (dirt driveway in the woods). There it sat for 5 years with tree sap slowly burying it and the mold coating the interior. Eventually we convinced her to sell it to a family friend. When he came to collect he brought a replacement battery and installed it. He then started it with no issue and drove it to a detailer to clean it. All that was wrong with it was one of the power doors wasn’t working right (which had already been an issue before it was parked), everything else was just normal maintenance (fluid changes, brakes, etc).
Car based vs truck based platforms. Roomy enough to take pretty much everything you’d want. Typically bulletproof engines (unless you are my father in law that can and has killed everything on 4 wheels through neglect). Decent gas mileage for their size. Not winning any style points or races, but that’s not their point.
Honda odessey
Minivans were actually more practical than the SUVs and pickups they are now trying to sell everyone as replacements; they got as good or better fuel efficiency and were easier to drive and park. Those who have them may not be so inclined to “upgrade.”
We had one on the farm. You can fit everything from alpacas to flat screens.
We used the hell out of it then gave it to my girl. She used it for a few years and then gave it to her parents. They still drive it all over.
They’re good enough.
I used to do emissions testing in Ct. I saw more Honda Odyssey and Toyota Siennas with over 300k miles than any other vehicles
Minivans are most comfortable for hauling people, especially adults.